So, it was FINALLY time for new episodes after a long wait since May!
I was hyped as hell for this first episode and had big expectations.
Last week I re-watched episodes 1-19 from season 1. (Have seen every episode at least 4 times by now ;-) )
Today I watched episode 20, just right before I watched the NEW episode...
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SPOILERS ahead, watch the episode first!
SPOILERS ahead, watch the episode first!
SPOILERS ahead, watch the episode first!
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My highlights from this episode (without particular order):
1 – Finally new episodes! That alone is worth to be highlighted here ;-)
2 – Ryan's introduction! I think Ryan was introduced very well, showing her background, her struggles, and her tragic background. I especially liked the scene where Mary reads about Ryan as Ryan reads about Kate. This shows perfectly how different they are in many ways. Ryan isn't a billionaire, her situation is completely different from Kate's. But both have a very troubled past, that they have in common. And as the season progress, I think Ryan will get a similar sense as Kate has that she can make a difference by becoming the hero of Gotham.
3 – A verrrry emotional episode! Not really a surprise as we knew that the episode would deal with Kate's disappearance, even right now most characters have only little hope that she is still alive (I am 100% she is still alive). All have to deal with a terrible tragedy in their own ways, as they more and more think it is one right now.
4 – Alice's idea for Batwoman's/Kate's end! Respect! That was one hell of an evil plan to get her sister killed by her dad! I imagine that scene. That would be the greatest shock for Jacob, finding out that Kate is Batwoman and that he just killed his own daughter! That would devastate him totally. A great way for Alice to get her revenge on both. But it was a great pleasure for Alice making Jacob finallllllly realizing that Kate is Batwoman! A sad and bitter moment for Jacob which will last a long time I think.
5 - the Supergirl references! It was fun to have so many references to Supergirl in the show. The Kryptonite and Kate visiting Kara to ask for her permission to get rid of it. Plus Ryan coming in contact with the Kryptonite. More on that later.
6 - New enemies/perspectives for Alice! With Kate gone (for now) Alice was seriously frustrated, to say at least. But her connection to Safiyah and Ryan will give her new perspectives. Hopefully, she won't find out soon that Ryan is the new Batwoman. I guess she won't remember Ryan at all. But they will meet soon enough in episode 2.
Now, some things I didn't like about the episode:
- I don't understand why there is only ONE super suit in the first place. Doesn't Batman and later Batwoman have some in storage? I find that odd.
I can accept that Ryan fits in Kate's suit even she is taller/stronger. But why does Tommy thinks he can fit in Batwoman's suit? It was ok for me that Luke managed to fit Batman's suit to Batwoman in season 1, as he had to make it shorter/tighter. But how do you fit a rather small women's suit to big Tommy Elliot? I think it would have been better if Elliot would try to get one of Batman's old suits (that should have been there).
- I found it a little strange how well Tommy handled the Batmobile on his first drive. Especially with mastering the weapon's system. But ok, not a big issue.
- The way Tommy tried to kill the new Batwoman was quite weird for me. Did he just place the rock in the barrel of the shotgun? And I don't like everyone's obsession with having a bullet that can pierce the suit. Yes, it's a good thing to have...but Batwoman's lower face isn't protected for example. And there are dozens of other ways someone could kill Batwoman without needing a gun, and many aren't that difficult to achieve. But enough of that, I had that issue already in the first season.
Now back to more aspects I LIKED about the episode:
I think the plane crash was a good idea for Kate Kane's "ending" (for now). I read rumors that she would be likely killed in an earthquake as she was rescuing people, but that rumor wasn't true. The plane crash actually leaves a lot of possibilities of how Kate has survived that. Was she really on board? Faked her own death for now? She knew about the plane being shot down/bombed and perhaps had a parachute. Many more options.
Tommy's impersonating Bruce didn't last long, which I think is a good thing. Would be very hard to fool all these folks for much longer. I liked how Julia found out about it as she cleverly builds up a "trap" for the false Bruce. Good job!
Bruce sleeping with 2 hot women fits very well to his playboy image. Even that had a bitter ending for possibly both chicks.....
There were rumors that Scarecrow actually killed Ryan's mother. More rumors that were wrong. It's good that the new Batwoman has although a strong motivation to hunt down Alice!
The Batwoman scenes were mostly good. The fight against Tommy was good as a really angry Batwoman punched the crap out of Tommy.
The first meeting where Ryan meets Mary and Luke was well made. She presented her motivation to wear the suit and they were shocked that someone else was wearing the suit in the first place.
Sophie reading Kate's letter was a strong scene! Damn, that must be a huge shock for Sophie, also she might have had a feeling that Kate is Batwoman....even she was convinced otherwise from the false Batwoman, played by Julia. Will be interesting to see how she will handle all that.
Also, it was an emotional scene as Jacob put on the Bat-signal! The same signal he hated for that long. But seeing his desperation to call his own daughter by that was tough....
The final scene of the episode is puzzling! How will the Kryptonite affect Ryan? I don't have ANY clue right now....but I am thrilled to find out about it!
In total:
3,5 out of 5 – First episodes are always tough, especially with that BIG change!
It was a good start to the season. Some odd aspects, but a lot of strong scenes!
- Siggi
- Batwoman Season 2
- Monday, 18 January 2021
I got some more things I wanna add:
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- The first Batwoman scene was quite funny as Ryan was goofing around. It was ok, as it was her first time. For later fights, that's not something I would like to say as crime-fighting is normally no funny business in my opinion
- The new car really looks great and will be a good addition for the good guys to fight crime. It was a little odd that Luke didn't know anything about it and it was hidden like that. but perhaps Bruce has his reasons for that.
- The aspect that Safiyah is responsible for the plane to be blown out of the sky is interesting. She already had an interest in that railgun in season one to get Batwoman killed. So, what her beef with Kate/Batwoman? Seemingly she knew they were both the same person. How did she get to know that? And what happened when she met Kate in the past? Hopefully, we will soon get more info on that topic! And as Kate is not dead....has Safiyah kidnapped her? Many possibilities here...
- The scene at the end where Alice is laying next to the (for 2 days) dead Mouse, was nice. A fitting, creepy touch to Alice! I wouldn't be surprised if she would keep his body around....even that would include some "Bates motel"-vibes ;-)
P.S.: I finally added a browser-based spell checker....sorry for the (too many) errors that were in the post yesterday.
SPOILERS ahead!
SPOILERS ahead!
SPOILERS ahead!
- The first Batwoman scene was quite funny as Ryan was goofing around. It was ok, as it was her first time. For later fights, that's not something I would like to say as crime-fighting is normally no funny business in my opinion
- The new car really looks great and will be a good addition for the good guys to fight crime. It was a little odd that Luke didn't know anything about it and it was hidden like that. but perhaps Bruce has his reasons for that.
- The aspect that Safiyah is responsible for the plane to be blown out of the sky is interesting. She already had an interest in that railgun in season one to get Batwoman killed. So, what her beef with Kate/Batwoman? Seemingly she knew they were both the same person. How did she get to know that? And what happened when she met Kate in the past? Hopefully, we will soon get more info on that topic! And as Kate is not dead....has Safiyah kidnapped her? Many possibilities here...
- The scene at the end where Alice is laying next to the (for 2 days) dead Mouse, was nice. A fitting, creepy touch to Alice! I wouldn't be surprised if she would keep his body around....even that would include some "Bates motel"-vibes ;-)
P.S.: I finally added a browser-based spell checker....sorry for the (too many) errors that were in the post yesterday.
- more than a month ago
- Batwoman Season 2
- # 1
@Siggi... things you didn't like.
I am no sure there is just one super suit. The batmobile was hidden in a secret chamber. The Batcave may be much bigger than Luke or we the viewers know. We may have older batsuits, remnants of Robin & Batgirl hidden throughout... just waiting to be found.
I think Tommy trying to shoot the kryptonite haphazardly with a shotgun is what saved Ryan. If the kryptonite projectile fit properly, it would have likely had the momentum to kill. I am surprised Tommy didn't load the batmobile up with weapons and use a rail gun of sorts to shoot the kryptonite. But, he certainly couldn't kill her, so I suspect intentional plot devise.
I was wondering how Tommy had such a good handle on the Batmobile and surprised it didn't have smart technology that would prevent someone other than he Bat team from driving it.
I thought it weird that Tommy's Bruce face just kinda slipped off, but if only two days had passed, I guess the graphs didn't take. Although, to be honest,the total face off plot is very comic book and you just gotta roll with it.
I thought it was too convenient that Alice's gang killed Ryan's mom but serves as a good plot device for Ryan's future interactions with Alice.
I am no sure there is just one super suit. The batmobile was hidden in a secret chamber. The Batcave may be much bigger than Luke or we the viewers know. We may have older batsuits, remnants of Robin & Batgirl hidden throughout... just waiting to be found.
I think Tommy trying to shoot the kryptonite haphazardly with a shotgun is what saved Ryan. If the kryptonite projectile fit properly, it would have likely had the momentum to kill. I am surprised Tommy didn't load the batmobile up with weapons and use a rail gun of sorts to shoot the kryptonite. But, he certainly couldn't kill her, so I suspect intentional plot devise.
I was wondering how Tommy had such a good handle on the Batmobile and surprised it didn't have smart technology that would prevent someone other than he Bat team from driving it.
I thought it weird that Tommy's Bruce face just kinda slipped off, but if only two days had passed, I guess the graphs didn't take. Although, to be honest,the total face off plot is very comic book and you just gotta roll with it.
I thought it was too convenient that Alice's gang killed Ryan's mom but serves as a good plot device for Ryan's future interactions with Alice.
- more than a month ago
- Batwoman Season 2
- # 2
They can certainly could later reveal Safiyah actually kidnapped Kate and sabotaged the plane to crash.
I did like the Supergirl references. Another one that suggest Kara/Supergirl flew over the crash sight and found no evidence of Kate would also have been a nice touch. Will Supergirl mention Kate when it returns?
Do Kate and Ryan wear the same size boots? I can see the suit be stretchy but shoes/boots either fit or they don't.
Again, I am and will always be team Kate Kane where Batwoman is concerned but Dries managed to make a decent glass of lemonade from the lemons she had to work with following Ruby's exit. I just don't see be getting as excited and involved as I was in season 1.
The premiere matched its ratings lows and well below the season 1 average, but had a playoff game opposite it. It reached nearly as many viewers when it was rebroadcast on Monday. Ratings for episode 2 will be interesting. I am concerned for Charmed which will be following it.
I did like the Supergirl references. Another one that suggest Kara/Supergirl flew over the crash sight and found no evidence of Kate would also have been a nice touch. Will Supergirl mention Kate when it returns?
Do Kate and Ryan wear the same size boots? I can see the suit be stretchy but shoes/boots either fit or they don't.
Again, I am and will always be team Kate Kane where Batwoman is concerned but Dries managed to make a decent glass of lemonade from the lemons she had to work with following Ruby's exit. I just don't see be getting as excited and involved as I was in season 1.
The premiere matched its ratings lows and well below the season 1 average, but had a playoff game opposite it. It reached nearly as many viewers when it was rebroadcast on Monday. Ratings for episode 2 will be interesting. I am concerned for Charmed which will be following it.
- more than a month ago
- Batwoman Season 2
- # 3
@Siggi... things you didn't like.
I am no sure there is just one super suit. The batmobile was hidden in a secret chamber. The Batcave may be much bigger than Luke or we the viewers know. We may have older batsuits, remnants of Robin & Batgirl hidden throughout... just waiting to be found.
I think Tommy trying to shoot the kryptonite haphazardly with a shotgun is what saved Ryan. If the kryptonite projectile fit properly, it would have likely had the momentum to kill. I am surprised Tommy didn't load the batmobile up with weapons and use a rail gun of sorts to shoot the kryptonite. But, he certainly couldn't kill her, so I suspect intentional plot devise.
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Yeah, perhaps there are more suits hidden somewhere, I just find it a little odd that there is only one in usage. Ok, the suit is more advanced than Batman suits in the past, but you wouldn't build and use just one. There is a laundry day as well
But maybe they will show more suits in the future.
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Well, hard to say how this penetrate the suit with Kryptonite and kill Batwoman thing is supposed to be working.
As I suggest the Kryptonite "just" need to break through the suit as a "can opener" and then the "normal" attached projectile would hurt Batwoman. But well, I hope this topic gets now finally dropped as there are so many other ways to kill her.
Most interestingly is now how the Kryptonite will actually affect her?
- more than a month ago
- Batwoman Season 2
- # 4
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